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Subsonic 223 red dot
Subsonic 223 red dot





subsonic 223 red dot

Good deer load for the younger shooters, or those that can’t take recoil. I use moderate lead tempered to 16 to 18 on the B-Scale with de-tempered noses.ġ9.5 grains of 4759 will give close to 2000 fps.recoil is nothing and over 1300 lbs of muzzle energy. Out to 150 yards it will kill game to 100 lbs without problems. and it is a fun load at the same pressure. Try 11 grains of Unique, it will give 1650 fps and 1000 lbs of M.E. 8.5 grains jumps the pressure to well over 35,000 CUP for only an additional 150 fps. This bullet over 7 grains of Red Dot in the 30-30 case or the 300 Savage case (the savage case takes one grain more of fast powder to met these 30-30 velocities with fast powder), gives near 1200 fps and near 500 lbs of punch for around 25000 CUP. See my articles on the 30-30 for top loads for hunting and such. Loaded the same it gives basically the same ballistics. A comparable jacketed bullet is the Speer 130 grain Flatnosed 30-30 bullet. The 30 caliber starts off long and narrow for it’s weight. We are not talking about some big fat flatfaced 44 or 45 caliber bullet with a ballistic co-efficient so low it’s only in the double digits.

subsonic 223 red dot

And that flat nose will transmit its energy well. It will still be trucking at a velocity of near 2000 fps at 300 and giving all most 1300 lbs of punch out there. 250, will be on at 200 yards and down a scant foot at 300 yards! Actual tests.not from the books. Well loaded to 2500 fps with 36 grains of Reloader15 from my 24 inch Marlin.with a 3 inch high at 100 yards, this bullet with it’s B.C. I hear all the time this shape bullet in the 30-30 will have terrible down range ballistics. It’s perfect for loading tubes and transmitting shock to animals. It is a flat faced almost cylindrical bullet in my softest alloy it runs 155 grains and in my hard cast 151 grains. 308440 which probably has been renumbered to. So I use just a few here.the number one cast mold I have for the 30-30 class of leveraction rifles and the 32-20 and 30 Carbine in rifles and handguns is the Lyman. Loading for it is easy.cartridge cases today are much stronger than just a few decades ago.at least I seem to crush fewer with the reloading press then I did back in the 1960s and 70s. Our so called poor 30-30 is really an international caliber and cartridge.

subsonic 223 red dot

Can you image a small, trim, 30-30 double rifle.goodness that would be sweet. The 7.62X51mm Rimmed as the 30-30 is called in Europe, was always considered a fine target round.as well as perfect for drillings, single shot break opens, and even a few doubles. Varmints and even up to large deer types, with the 250-3000 went down also. He harvested animals as big as our elk with the 30-30 and the standard British loaded 170 grain round softnose (flat tip). The man kept four large families on farms ( ever they called them then) around him, in meat all the time while I was there.and I’m sure for decades later. The Improved case is better, and cast bullets really make it shine.Ī farmer in Rhodesia (it was Northern and Southern Rhodesia in those days) had a Savage 250-3000 and a 30-30 Marlin. Certainly a 150 grain jacketed bullet at 2500 fps is a fine hunting load. And with the new powders, bullets, cartridges cases of great strength, guns made of fantastic steel today, compared to the 1890s.the 30-30 today does illustriously better than yesteryear. The boys back then that used to such, looked at the small hole in the end of the 30-30 barrel and couldn’t believe it would kill well. lighter smaller bullets at high velocity and killing ability. The 30-30 started the great and never ending argument about big fat bullets at slow to moderate velocities vrs. it’s really old, turn of the 19/20th century. So if you see an old 30-30 Winchester with what appears to be a brownish-blue barrel. But then they had problems bluing the barrels.because the nickel created the same condition that stainless steel has.it doesn’t blue well if at all. They found by adding a small amount of nickel to the steel it’s wear quotient was much higher. By 1895 ‘Nickel Steel’ barrels were put on the 30-30 chambered guns. Though the 30-30 was to be the first on the market in the new didn’t make it.stress flaws in the soft steel used in those days allowed friction wear with jacketed bullets.so the 32-40 was first chambered in the ‘94. He did that so the rifle would take longer cartridges than the pistol rounds chambered in the ‘92. The 30-30 as most know was designed by John Browning for the 1894 Winchester Levergun which he also designed by redesigning the 1892 Winchester levergun. The 30-40 Krag in a single shot rifle was.in 1892/3 but that had limited sales. The 30-30 first I know like many the 30-30 wasn’t the first commercial smokeless power cartridge offered in the U.S.







Subsonic 223 red dot